Review - 6208 Bi-amplified Reference Monitor - Jbl Professional
Out of these v $400 monitors, which pair should I purchase?
I know I just opened a thread about monitors a couple of days agone, but now I've got a specific question. Out of these 5 $400 pair of monitors, which one practise you feel would be the best purchase? KRK RP6 G2 Rokit Mackie MR5 A few questions: What is the big difference between the KRK 5'southward and 6's, and is it worth the toll jump of $100 dollars to go the half dozen'due south? and Thanks once more.
KRK RP5 G2 Rokit
JBL LSR 2325P
Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8
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everyone will propose you something else. wait at the specs (freq. range, SPL, weight/size etc.) make a belly decision! either i will do something good.
oh and...you know which 1 I'd suggest (which are the largest ones in the list you mentioned btw) ..get prodipe dude! 
Between the KRKs, I'd say the half dozen'due south are worth the money; you get a much better bass response. Haven't tried the balance.
Gear Bedlamite
No brainer! Get the JBL's. I have had or used many speakers that are better than what you listed and the 25p'due south are the ones I use. I use them with a 10"KRK sub.
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Originally Posted by Tranny-Cap-Tube ➡️
No brainer! Become the JBL's. I take had or used many speakers that are meliorate than what y'all listed and the 25p's are the ones I utilize. I use them with a 10"KRK sub.
i wonder if the fact that the JBL'due south only go up to 18k is a negative betoken...
(serious question)
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Originally Posted by kingocounty ➡️
Between the KRKs, I'd say the 6's are worth the money; you lot get a much better bass response. Haven't tried the rest.
that, in my opinion, is a useless statement.
Yep, on the whole, a 6" driver volition do better bass than a v" driver. All the same, if your room is small, the 5" will do you better.
Room size is 1 of the about important factors when choosing speakers, due to the driver size. When I went from PMC TB-1s to DB-1s, I noticed an increase in bass, despite the reduction in driver size, because my room was such a size that the larger commuter in the TB was also large for the room.
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Originally Posted by kingocounty ➡️
Between the KRKs, I'd say the 6's are worth the coin; y'all get a much improve bass response. Haven't tried the rest.
With the v's you hear more than of the tight punch of the kick and bass the 6's I feel have a more than smother sounding bottom stop which I similar ,either 1 should get you mixing your songs with on problems. Yes I feel the 6's are worth the extra cash. In the size room yous are in I would think it over two or iii times before going into a monitor with a eight inch bass commuter even if the monitor has practiced reference's from others.especially if the is no audio handling in your room for you lot will end up fighting confronting yourself. Bottom line is this y'all must determine for yourself.
Yep, it definitely seems to be a very personal thing. For those who didn't read my terminal postal service, my room is nigh 14ft by 11ft, untreated. Honestly though, I'one thousand all the same too much of a rookie to even tell the difference correct now. I'll learn in fourth dimension though. Slowly, but surely.
And so should I not even consider getting viii inch studio monitors for my room size? I can become the Prodipe monitors in 5 inch, only I've actually read bad reviews virtually the 5 inch and adept reviews nearly the eight inch. Any suggestions?
Ive heard bad reviews about a Land Rover 90, and read actually good reviews about the Ferrari F40. Shall I consider ownership one for my expedition through the Amazon rainforest.
It's all very well the 8inch speakers being very practiced, but if the sound is going straight past you and sounding lovely to the back wall of your room, information technology'due south a scrap pointless.
Yamaha HS50 or 80 or those JBL'due south
Or the Focals
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Originally Posted by the a-b theory ➡️
I know I just opened a thread about monitors a couple of days ago, but now I've got a specific question. Out of these five $400 pair of monitors, which i practise you experience would be the all-time buy? KRK RP6 G2 Rokit Mackie MR5 A few questions: What is the large departure between the KRK 5's and vi'due south, and is it worth the price bound of $100 dollars to become the half dozen'due south? and Thanks again.
KRK RP5 G2 Rokit
JBL LSR 2325P
Prodipe Pro Ribbon viii
Try this call musician'south friend sam ash or any of the on line stores that offering a 45 mean solar day return policy order the one that you are most interested in try it if not happy render and try some other. :-)
surely an 8" monitor in that room size would be ok though?
why is a larger monitor not preferred past some people, yet others say its fine in a small room?
I would similar to empathise the reasons people think this applies - because I seriously practise not believe in it.
A speaker puts out a range of frequencies at a given book. If I use for instance KRK RP5 G2 and RP6 G2 the 6" version will practice no more go 'slightly' lower.
Choose a speaker on frequency response and sound IMHO. As a bass-heavy music producer I couldnt live without my 40hz business, 50hz or higher doesnt cut it for me 
Room treatment is essential either way so nothing to loose there by choosing one over the other!
Last edited by circuitbreaker; 23rd March 2010 at 02:14 AM.. Reason: heheh, spelling
I dearest lots of bass myself.But when it come to mixing I accept for myself institute that in the small environment I work in the monitors with the half-dozen'due south translates much or accurate when playing them back in different rooms or at different locations.It would be nice to have a room that SONY , STIFF or VIRGIN records have merely I don't. I live in the real world similar most of the the Depression END THEORY folks do.I take tried 8'due south hither in my small studio and made them sound groovy but somewhere else information technology was just not the same. Back in the early eighty's I was using JBL's with 8 inch drivers with the same results.Similar I have said what works for you or others my not work for myself or others.That'due south like telling someone what is the best it'due south all at best someones speculations. No two people see a photo the same way nor dose any 2 hear sound the same they may all see and hear the same thing just volition draw that experience differently.
Gear Head
Get a pair of KRK RP6 G2 Rokit. They take a lower freq range and the mids feel smoother. There is sale at Musicians Friend to get a red pair for $150 a piece.
I'd say for $400 you lot could get a nicely taken care of used pair of Mackie HR624's (MKI).
I would take a expect at them, they are pretty sweetness monitors for tracking and mixing.
Mick
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Originally Posted past circuitbreaker ➡️
surely an 8" monitor in that room size would be ok though?
why is a larger monitor not preferred by some people, all the same others say its fine in a pocket-sized room?
I would like to understand the reasons people think this applies - because I seriously do not believe in it.
A speaker puts out a range of frequencies at a given volume. If I use for case KRK RP5 G2 and RP6 G2 the vi" version will do no more than than go 'slightly' lower.
Choose a speaker on frequency response and sound IMHO. As a bass-heavy music producer I couldnt live without my 40hz business concern, 50hz or college doesnt cut information technology for me
Room treatment is essential either way and so nothing to loose there past choosing one over the other!
right, there are some things you need to understand.
big speakers practise not necessarily mean more bass. there are enough of other factors to consider, such as cabinet blueprint, and amplifier capability. I take 5 i/2" drivers in my PMCs, and a top-end Cyrus ability amp setup (integrated amp and slave amp, bi-amping them, and PSX-R on each amp). They say the go down to 55Hz, but they certainly become downwards a lot further ACCURATELY than my KRK V8s, which are eight" drivers and claim to go a lot further downward.
Large speakers motility more than air. Your ears can just deal with so much air at a time. Thus, your ears don't ever accept a trouble hearing the one" tweeter, merely they have much more than problems hearing the 8" woofer if information technology's 12" from your ear.
And finally, 'audio good' and 'sound accurate' are different things. A lot of people who take good experiences with 8" speakers are listening to the lovely sound of their room, not the audio of their speakers. Use smaller drivers, and monitor at lower levels, and chuck in some acoustic handling, and you will start listening to your speakers not your walls and ceiling.
The reality is, on big speakers, if you sit as well close the sound volition simply become right past it, and you will hear it only when it comes dorsum from the wall behind you. If it didn't, I'd accept some IB-2s not DB-1s, merely those cabs would only engulf my room and not really send much to my ears.
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Originally Posted by therealbigd ➡️
right, in that location are some things you need to understand.
large speakers do not necessarily mean more bass. at that place are plenty of other factors to consider, such as cabinet design, and amplifier capability. I have 5 1/2" drivers in my PMCs, and a top-end Cyrus power amp setup (integrated amp and slave amp, bi-amping them, and PSX-R on each amp). They say the go down to 55Hz, merely they certainly go down a lot further ACCURATELY than my KRK V8s, which are viii" drivers and claim to go a lot farther down.
Big speakers movement more air. Your ears can only deal with so much air at a time. Thus, your ears don't e'er have a problem hearing the 1" tweeter, only they have much more than issues hearing the 8" woofer if information technology's 12" from your ear.
And finally, 'audio good' and 'audio accurate' are dissimilar things. A lot of people who take good experiences with 8" speakers are listening to the lovely audio of their room, not the sound of their speakers. Apply smaller drivers, and monitor at lower levels, and chuck in some acoustic treatment, and you will start listening to your speakers not your walls and ceiling.
The reality is, on big speakers, if you sit too close the sound volition simply go right by it, and you will hear it merely when information technology comes back from the wall behind you lot. If it didn't, I'd take some IB-2s not DB-1s, only those cabs would simply engulf my room and not really transport much to my ears.
Thanks for the info. I know I need to care for my room, and, in time, I definitely will. Only it's not my prime business correct now. So are you lot suggesting that I should stay away from viii inch monitors for the time being? I think I am leaning towards the 8 inch Prodipe monitors.
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Originally Posted by the a-b theory ➡️
Thank you for the info. I know I need to treat my room, and, in time, I definitely will. Only it's not my prime business correct now. So are you suggesting that I should stay away from 8 inch monitors for the time beingness? I think I am leaning towards the 8 inch Prodipe monitors.
It depends how close you are to them.
If, inside your room, y'all can move them 4ft back from your desk (which is 2ft deep itself), 8 inches will exist fine on a you-speakers basis.
Simply if your room is untreated, I would honestly recommend smaller speakers. The bigger speakers you use, the more of your room you lot will be listening to and the less of your speakers.
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Originally Posted past the a-b theory ➡️
Thanks for the info. I know I need to treat my room, and, in time, I definitely will. But information technology's not my prime business concern right now. And so are you lot suggesting that I should stay away from viii inch monitors for the time being? I think I am leaning towards the 8 inch Prodipe monitors.
Similar therealbigd said you lot want to hear the audio of your monitors and not the audio bouncing off the room. I utilize to recollect that the big bass drivers was where information technology was at but over fourth dimension and through the school of hard knocks I establish all I was doing was fighting against myself. The person talking about sound force per unit area is correct on.
Gear Maniac
The KRKs audio practiced, but I found them to be hyped and unnatural in general - pleasant to heed to. Not a bad manner to go, but I just think ultimately inaccurate.
The JBLs are the highest quality monitors you have in that location - I retrieve they are quite nice. I have a friend with a pair and I'yard always impressed.
I own the MR-5s. I think they are prissy - good build quality, good size and a few nice features. I was worried about the lack of bass, just I actually recollect the engineers overcompensated and I discover them to actually be a bit bass heavy. I would definetly utilise them in conjunction with some stereo speakers and (of course) headphones. I got the pair for $300 whereas i couldnt detect a deal to get the JBL's for less than $500 at the time. I definitely recommend them as a pair of introductory speakers and they KILL at that cost and I recall are more 'pro' than the KRKs. They wont make you pee your pants or nothin, but i'm happy.
The JBL'due south and the MR-5s are sonically pretty like, though i think the JBLs are much more authentic and friendly to the mid-range in general, just I'thousand notation sure if they are $200 dollars better.
To be honest, yous wont be wasting your coin on whatsoever of them - only youlll have to know the limitations from the get-get and make them work for y'all.
As he ^ said, on all those sets you're ownership something which barely does the task.
Want my overall Stance? Get yo donkey on eBay. You often find 2d mitt PMC / ATC / small Quested passives for equally little every bit your budget. And on eBay you tin pick upwardly an old Harrison / Beyer amp for $F.A (or go an Alesis RA new)which will drive them with pretty practiced sound - apparently null like you lot'd become from their recommended Bryston or MC2, but the resulting audio would be a whole league (or 3) above KRK Rokits.
Seriously, if my upkeep was $400, I'd be looking at the second manus marketplace.
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come up on guys! in that location's HUGE differences between different 8" woofer speakers. mackies are known to be very bassy aswell every bit genelecs.
others are not that strong or hyped in the lower area...merely sayin'..
my room is about 4,5m x 3,5m.(same size every bit the OP'due south) practise my NS-x's audio improve or more accurate in the lower region? no! the prodipe viii's translate pretty well in here.
oh and almost the bad review regarding the pro 5'southward: i did a search and simply found the Aforementioned guy on several sites totally TROLLING (he used the aforementioned words everywhere) i can't believe they sound so freaking bad or worse than the eight's (either he was a troll from a competing company or he only received a cleaved speaker gear up - which can happen with every brand - read through all the complaints nearly the A7...haha...not to mention a good friend who got them less than ii weeks ago...and....one speaker: bass=expressionless! i'one thousand not kidding!! 100% truth..)
anyway...get what yous feel good with. all speakers of your list volition practice their task! all i'm proverb is that it does not take to be the most popular or known ones.
want a great EQ? does it have to be waves? certainly not.
i'm out 
I dear my mackie MR5s. I was hesitant at first, just I love them after demoing them.
Nice compliment to my NS10s.
Very tight bass on the mackies . I dont like the heavy bass on the biggie mackies, too much for my gustation. I A/B'd the MR5s with the MR8s, hands downwardly the MR5s won.
Simply my ii cents 
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Originally Posted past miro ➡️
come on guys! there's HUGE differences betwixt unlike 8" woofer speakers. mackies are known to be very bassy aswell every bit genelecs.
others are non that strong or hyped in the lower area...but sayin'..
my room is about 4,5m x three,5m.(same size as the OP's) do my NS-x'southward sound better or more accurate in the lower region? no! the prodipe eight's translate pretty well in here.
oh and about the bad review regarding the pro 5's: i did a search and merely constitute the Aforementioned guy on several sites totally TROLLING (he used the same words everywhere) i can't believe they sound so freaking bad or worse than the 8'southward (either he was a troll from a competing visitor or he only received a broken speaker set - which tin happen with every brand - read through all the complaints about the A7...haha...not to mention a skilful friend who got them less than 2 weeks ago...and....one speaker: bass=expressionless! i'm non kidding!! 100% truth..)
anyhow...get what you experience good with. all speakers of your list will do their chore! all i'grand saying is that information technology does not take to be the about popular or known ones.
want a neat EQ? does it accept to be waves? certainly not.
i'm out
well if you bought NS10s to be accurate you lot got fobbed off!
Yep, I get your point, merely none of the monitors described are aimed to producer a particular audio, like the NS10s are. The above are just all inexpensive attempts at monitors.
Nosotros're non merely talking about bass either. We're talking overall clarity. And the bigger speakers you have, the more you lot lose, especially if you're sat particularly shut to them, as i will assume he's going to be.
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Originally Posted by therealbigd ➡️
well if you lot bought NS10s to be accurate y'all got fobbed off!
Yes, I get your betoken, but none of the monitors described are aimed to producer a item audio, like the NS10s are. The above are just all inexpensive attempts at monitors.
We're not just talking about bass either. We're talking overall clarity. And the bigger speakers you have, the more than you lot lose, specially if you're saturday particularly close to them, every bit one volition presume he's going to be.
the only reason for having the NS-x's is that i bought them more than than x years ago - but kept them...
Hey kids, don't be NS10 hatin'....lol
I've been mixing on mine for almost 18 years.
I think nosotros need to become back to the point and help the original poster make a decision.
Which, by the style, have you A/B all of your choices? If you buddy up with one of your local reps, they may allow y'all to take a pair of their "B" stock home to hear them in your own room.
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Originally Posted past zerogravity ➡️
Hey kids, don't exist NS10 hatin'....lol
I've been mixing on mine for nearly 18 years.
I think we need to go back to the indicate and help the original affiche brand a decision.
Which, by the style, have yous A/B all of your choices? If y'all buddy up with 1 of your local reps, they may let you to have a pair of their "B" stock dwelling to hear them in your own room.
no ns10 hatin' at all...
Hey all. Thanks again for your recommendations. I still don't accept a clue equally to what I want to purchase. I take crossed the KRK's off my listing though, as I felt they were fashion as well bass heavy, which really bothered me. It simply felt like I was constantly making inaccurate mixes when I used them.
@therealbigd I appreciate the input, but I disagree with what yous said. I don't call back any of those monitors are something that just "barely gets the chore washed." That's certainly not low finish theory thinking. Something that barely gets the job done would be my Macbook Pro speakers, not a 400 dollar pair of monitors. I have a friend who mixed and mastered his entire first record on shitty, old goggle box speakers- and two of his songs from that record landed on the show The O.C. (when information technology was in its prime). I recollect it's a lot less the monitors and a lot more the person, which I guess applies to damn near everything in music creation and production.
Okay, so with the Rockits off my list. It's between
JBL - $400- includes stands and cables (Amazon.com: JBL LSR2325P LSR 2325P 2325 5" Powered Studio Monitors + Studio Monitor Stands + ii, 20' XLR Cables + 2 Unique Squared Vinyl Stickers: Musical Instruments)
Mackie - $359 (Amazon.com: Mackie MR5 (Pair) Reference Monitors: Musical Instruments)
Prodipe - $410 (300 if I get 5") (Amazon.com: Prodipe Pro Ribbon 8 Studio Monitors: Musical Instruments)
Out of those 3, which do y'all recommend, keeping price in mind. Cheers!
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(final words from my side)
consider these 3 points:
-frequency Range
-design (i mean you have to like information technology a picayune, or?)
-what does your abdomen tell y'all
JBL 37Hz-18k: non very attractive merely surely go the job done
Mackie 60Hz-20k: looking tranquility sexy / could become a little lower IMO
Prodipe: 45Hz-30k: design is decent - sound...oh well, i like em alot!
i as well disagree with "these speakers get the job barely done" ..consummate BS!
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